tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post6039223277902545986..comments2023-12-07T00:44:23.610-08:00Comments on The Trojan Heron: Quick Lawsuit UpdateECKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13031277544085651063noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-83361308610332142362013-01-25T09:00:53.163-08:002013-01-25T09:00:53.163-08:00Bear in mind that the extremist behind the push to...Bear in mind that the extremist behind the push to close down the nearly century old oyster farm at Pt. Reyes is Amy Trainer.<br /><br />Amy Trainer was formally with the Friends of the San Juans. <br /><br />Make no mistake. We are in the cross hairs. The National Monument push sounds nice on the surface, but remember that it was outgoing Interior Secretary Salazar who closed down the Pt Reyes oyster farm, at assistance of Amy Trainer, even over the objections of Senator Feinstein.<br /><br />What do you is going to happen here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-31028701566820610822013-01-25T08:21:52.664-08:002013-01-25T08:21:52.664-08:00It's sadly ironic that the "environmental...It's sadly ironic that the "environmentalists" focus all their attention in the wrong places. The grants are spent on salaries for people w/out the expertise or wisdom to do any real good. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-53451501288239512782013-01-25T07:36:17.855-08:002013-01-25T07:36:17.855-08:00http://oysterzone.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/01-23-1...http://oysterzone.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/01-23-13-peter-gleick-on-sustainable-agriculture-wilderness-dboc-the-role-of-science-in-policy/<br /><br />Have a gander at this....The Drakes Bay Oyster Co has sued the Feds for the closure of their farm and Peter Gleick has written about it. It could be our CAOs! And if you scroll down read about his book called <br /><br />Bottled and Sold<br /><br />THE STORY BEHIND OUR OBSESSION WITH BOTTLED WATER<br /><br />The Drakes Bay hearing is today. Send prayers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-29413744125530414262013-01-24T23:17:45.483-08:002013-01-24T23:17:45.483-08:00google Kitsap Alliance of Propert Owners for an in...google Kitsap Alliance of Propert Owners for an interesting article entitled GMA is a Failed Approach to Land Use Planning. The linked discussion paper is a rather good summary of how government, with the aid of some (clueless ?) courts are using environmental regulation (for the public good, of course) to strip away constitutionally protected rights in private property. It aint funny, McGee, and its damn sure happinin right here in our fine county.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-34837434697277698012013-01-24T21:26:36.627-08:002013-01-24T21:26:36.627-08:00Mr. Leonard: Excellent! Better than mine, with def...Mr. Leonard: Excellent! Better than mine, with deference to PM Churchill.<br /><br />Will all of you that own property here but live all across our great Country come to our rescue? Please don't wait. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-25362493222310171182013-01-24T21:05:44.189-08:002013-01-24T21:05:44.189-08:00Even though large tracts of SJC and many old and f...Even though large tracts of SJC and many old and famous Islands have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Friends and all the odious apparatus of EcoFascist rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in Waldron, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our County beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the Whale Watching Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.Leonard Spencernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-83918146708195568752013-01-24T21:01:48.553-08:002013-01-24T21:01:48.553-08:00Thanks to TH for the CAPR suit update. This suit a...Thanks to TH for the CAPR suit update. This suit and the Carlson/Gonce (sorry I lost the name of the fellow from Orcas) are where the rubber meets the road.<br /><br />How this deposition thing rolls is you gotta keep going until someone gives. Then you take that pearl of info and slam it into a hardball question and watch for an eyeball pop or look down.<br /><br />"Mr. Mason, are you ready for your cross?" "Your honor, I believe I'll call it a double cross."<br /><br />The prisoner's dilemma can only come to fruition with a whole bunch of legal work by tough talented attorneys.<br /><br />Send em some money, will ya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-90732179753761912922013-01-24T21:00:42.188-08:002013-01-24T21:00:42.188-08:00In other news, Mexifonia's favorite Senator Di...In other news, Mexifonia's favorite Senator DiFi cut loose with her Gun Confiscation Fantasy Bill today. Loon lady has permanent PTSD from Harvey Milk incident. Read it here now, "Not gonna register any guns which I neither confirm nor deny that I may or may not own". Just in case the new Troika thinks thenCounty needs to be dis-armed in order to enforce wetland buffers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-18144386364918466622013-01-24T20:30:21.753-08:002013-01-24T20:30:21.753-08:00My, if the FOSJ reads this they might get the impr...My, if the FOSJ reads this they might get the impression that they are not universally respected and admire for their fine work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-61901357066787659302013-01-24T20:27:23.698-08:002013-01-24T20:27:23.698-08:00Who the hell signed us up for all these "Inte...Who the hell signed us up for all these "Integrating Entities"? Why do they have any authority here? When are we going to rise up against these smug, self-righteous Eco-jihadis and send 'em whimpering back to the Bullitt foundation with eel grass sticking to their sandals?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-88790511265038242242013-01-24T17:17:50.570-08:002013-01-24T17:17:50.570-08:00I don't understand how it is that the tribe ha...I don't understand how it is that the tribe has the nerve to tell SJC that they want no development within 60 feet of any shoreline in SJC when the casino on Hwy 20 is built practically IN Padilla Bay....on tidelands/delta...and now they are filling in the land to the south of Hwy 20 for what looks to be a road in the tidelands/wetlands there. Why allow a group with that kind of hypocrisy and who is so so far away from walking their talk to have any voice in this County...and why do they get to have a voice anyway?<br /><br />Would love to hear comments from Kit or anyone....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-21995202081759783212013-01-24T16:39:20.239-08:002013-01-24T16:39:20.239-08:00Lumbering Lovel Prattfall sure looked at the Land ...Lumbering Lovel Prattfall sure looked at the Land Bank as a bucket of free money for das Brikverks. <br /><br />But I guess its ok, because it is supposed to haul in desperately needed ecotourist dollars into the back alleys of Friday Harbor. <br /><br />Nice little project, might get legs someday. Though the vendors and market-goers got a good dose of the cramped quarters back there last summer. Wide reports of dis-satisfaction will never make the papers or the election campaign. <br /><br />Economic development in our time. If only the Land Bank play had worked out, over 500 new eco-tourism jobs would have been created. In Sunshine Alley alone.<br /><br />Too bad Lovel didn't get to vote. With any luck she won't get to ever again either.<br /><br />She sure seems to like the Tulalip Nation though. Almost as much as she likes eco-tourism, sturdy yoeman farmers and merry little shop-keepers. It's that vision of EcoLand the Visitor Bureau is projecting now. Keep 'em inside that transportation corridor.<br /><br />Oh my God. It is all connected, they were right! Everything is part of everything else. It is all about the bugs. What else have we become?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-54784148644916032772013-01-24T10:52:49.021-08:002013-01-24T10:52:49.021-08:00Ooh...good point about the Land Bank's funding...Ooh...good point about the Land Bank's funding. We've paid into it three times now. Ouch. Definitely not free for us. And we're not developers. Just switched houses trying to afford life.<br /><br />The whole grant game is really scary. Like roulette w/your rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-59170427188315970892013-01-24T10:18:35.937-08:002013-01-24T10:18:35.937-08:00Kit, did'nt mean to offend your grant sucking ...Kit, did'nt mean to offend your grant sucking self, talk about freebies. As you may not be aware, the land banks primary source of funding is a real estate excise tax, which I have paid, so where doe's the free part come in? Is the land bank going to refund my money? Should we just hand over the money and shut up? Is the San Juan County National Grant Preserve the way to go? I know all these questions are irritating, sorry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-50492034619556550972013-01-24T09:50:13.051-08:002013-01-24T09:50:13.051-08:00I have lived in the islands for well over a decade...I have lived in the islands for well over a decade. Prior to that and during that time, I have worked on various projects in Indian Country around the United States and Canada. I have old friends that worked with and for NCAI. I went to the Four Corners to protest with many others during the Black Mountain affair. I have worked directly with tribal councils. Shall I go on?<br /><br />And in all the time I have lived and worked in San Juan County, at times even with the MRC, the BOCC and various agencies both in state and nationally, I was utterly unaware of any organized, publicized effort between the Tulalip Nation and the San Juan County government, certainly to the involvement as Mr. Rawson alludes. <br /><br />This is basically in the realm of what amounts to foreign policy. If the Canadian government sent emissaries to San Juan County to quietly urge our government to shut down our shorelines, what a kerfuffle that would be.<br /><br />If there are policy negotiations between the Tulalip Nation and San Juan County, don't you believe the public has a right to fully engage and be informed? Don't you believe the Tulalip Nation has an obligation to be proactive, transparent and forthcoming in their dealings? Especially when it strongly appears to be the case that the Tulalip Nation is an influential player pushing for all of San Juan County shoreline be declared critical areas before we can even contend with our SMP update. As well, based information and believe, the Tulalip National also appears as being a strong if not discrete proponent of Federal National Monument status that promises to reaches far beyond a small area on the south end of Lopez Island and encumber the county completely. What do you know of such things?<br /><br />I suppose some official from Tulalip may have dropped in from time time. And of course more is being learned every day about the structure of the LIO, who it is and what they apparently are up to. I frankly do not quite understand the role of the Tulalip Nation. San Juan County is tribal designated statistical area <br /><br />It feels surreptitious. If anonymous postings have no standing with you, don't pay attention. The rationale has been explained to you several times, and the reasoning is solid. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-73854762483786726482013-01-24T09:12:22.695-08:002013-01-24T09:12:22.695-08:00Hi Kit, I'm glad to see your encouragement in...Hi Kit, I'm glad to see your encouragement in terms of dialogue but I have to say that any discussions or meetings in the past have not been available to me because I never know about them until they're over. Also...as a struggling land owner these meetings are very difficult to get to. And unfortunately I haven't felt represented by our council. I begin to see most of them as very ordinary people who happen to have the resources that allow them to be available to do these jobs. <br /><br />The comment about "free" things is so entirely unwarranted. Those are the sorts of comments that make people respond to you negatively.<br /><br />I am a 6th generation islander and have many relatives who have fished w/indian privileges for many years. I think they would all say that access to the shore for boat launching should be a basic islanders' right. Your comments and sense of entitlement are very different than my Uncles' and cousins'. <br /><br />I wonder if you have any strong sense of the history of the Irish people who are my ancestors? The local indian tribes are hanging onto past grievances w/such a strong hold. I just think it's a lose lose sort of frame of mind. <br /><br />I hope I don't offend saying these things but time passes and things change. Clinging to old outrage and being rewarded for it is not the path to a good future.<br /><br />In particular the water bottling on the Skagit strikes me as a naive and destructive use of your rights. <br />I'd love to hear your response to my thoughts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-61418851401028835702013-01-24T08:41:29.930-08:002013-01-24T08:41:29.930-08:00Anonymous @ January 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM -- Did yo...Anonymous @ January 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM -- Did you really say "Give us a free public boat launch!" ? What other "stuff" do you want for free? Kit Rawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-84783995108835177652013-01-24T08:38:26.764-08:002013-01-24T08:38:26.764-08:00Terry Williams, representing Tulalip, has met seve...Terry Williams, representing Tulalip, has met several times in public with the County Commissioners and County Council over the years (more than a decade). I have spoken tot he M<RC, with a large number of public present, on the topic of treaty rights and tribal natural resource management. I believe I have offered several times to give this talk to other groups in San Juan County if anyone is interested. Tulalip participated with County Council members to set up the structure of the Local Integrating Organization,which is led by the tribes and San Juan County government. The LIO policy group meets on a regular basis and is one forum for discussion between the tribal and county governments. You have two county council members appointed to this group, so you might ask them about it. I do believe that all the meetings are open to the public as well. I don't know if public comment is normally on the agenda of that group, but, if it is not, as a staffer, i will definitely ask that you be allowed to speak. You can even wear a mask and disguise your voice as far as I'm concerned. You are asking for the tribal chair to come, and I will pass this request (anonymous as it is, are you really that afraid to identify yourself?) on to Terry, my boss. I do find it interesting that you people ask me to "close the door on [my] way out" and seem very happy to have me leaving, and then ask me to do this for you, and by a certain time at that. I am happy to do it though. You can never have too much public dialogue, but you have to participate constructively to make it work. <br /><br />I would also ask people to contact Tulalip or any other tribe directly with questions, comments, or requests for meetings. the MRC staff or LIO staff have the contact information. i am happy to be the person yo contact at Tulalip as long as I am working there.Kit Rawsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-73543766735468493572013-01-24T08:16:13.649-08:002013-01-24T08:16:13.649-08:00Kit: I think the government of the Tulalip Nation ...Kit: I think the government of the Tulalip Nation should sit down and have an open public meeting with our local government.<br /><br />You are an intermediary. What can you do to make this happen? You are not an authorized go-between for these jurisdictions. This surreptitious back-channel you appear primarily responsible for managing over the years needs some sunshine.<br /><br />At the very least, the Chair of the Tulalip Nation needs to meet with the San Juan County Council in open public session to discuss the apparent interventions of the Tulalip Nation in local affairs.<br /><br />This is quite apart from any interpretations of treaty rights.<br /><br />Thank you for listening. Before you retire, please make this so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-20617936587390372032013-01-23T23:32:27.308-08:002013-01-23T23:32:27.308-08:00the land bank takes our money to create low- inten...<br /> the land bank takes our money to create low- intensity recreational use areas that we can't access, let's call them grant preserves. We are surrounded by water, but can't get to it, Give us a free public boat launch! I don't know about other islands , but Orcas is lacking, big time. Land bank will , maybe buy, with our money, will will maybe allow kayaks, 3-4 parking spaces, we are saving it for your grandchildren. Is there a boat storage area at Opal home sites? The public had better access at the land bank properties when they where in private hands, Turtle Back for sure. Stop saving us from ourselves, please. My Mom told me that when I moved out I could do what ever I wanted. Don't make her a liar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-15849889831463333902013-01-23T23:02:20.919-08:002013-01-23T23:02:20.919-08:00I think the chances are 50-50. Some good argument...I think the chances are 50-50. Some good arguments, but a high standard to achieve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-9390414012462792013-01-23T22:29:15.901-08:002013-01-23T22:29:15.901-08:00When do we start taking odds on the outcome of the...When do we start taking odds on the outcome of the Feb 4th hearing. There is a fairly compelling arguement that prop #1 violates the single issue statute. The argument for 2 and 3 are a bit shakier, but may have merit.<br /><br />What's the TH odds book say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-70058236325343987472013-01-23T22:22:43.691-08:002013-01-23T22:22:43.691-08:00Really.... You posted the Lola song again?
It was...Really.... You posted the Lola song again?<br /><br />It was funny the first time, but really... Give it a rest!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2025252027978265531.post-57272384445571765072013-01-23T20:56:18.343-08:002013-01-23T20:56:18.343-08:00I would like to say this to the FSOJ
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